tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post7009705164810909920..comments2023-09-30T05:06:56.904-07:00Comments on BIKE NOPA: "A Clear Case of the Bicyclist At Fault": SFPD on Recent Masonic/Fell CollisionMichael Helquisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-50230782924721116672010-05-18T21:21:00.082-07:002010-05-18T21:21:00.082-07:00So it looks like a person on the road made a stupi...So it looks like a person on the road made a stupid move. Bikes/cars, brakes/no-brakes does not matter. The drivers/riders/MUNI drivers of this city constantly display a blatant disregard for the traffic laws and signals. It doesn't matter what we do. People don't even stop at red lights for f##k's sake, so you can forget about turn signals! I've seen people run red lights right in front of cops with no consequense. This city is ruined by the amount of distracted, entitled, uncoordinated and impatient motorists of all types. This is just another instance of the way people use the streets in SF. Nothing more, nothing less. The real solution is to have a massive crackdown on traffic infractions, particularly the running of red lights.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877047573494776804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-89658949823775301632010-05-17T09:32:27.606-07:002010-05-17T09:32:27.606-07:00If the cyclist ran the light it's possible tha...If the cyclist ran the light it's possible that he simply never made it past the NB lane.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054722133466430015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-22376745265950348072010-05-17T07:58:39.320-07:002010-05-17T07:58:39.320-07:00mcas and peter: The descriptions used by the offic...mcas and peter: The descriptions used by the officer were not completely clear to me either. He did not have the report with him and said he had no time to get it due to prep for Bay to Breakers. He emphasized "abrupt left hand turn". He didn't say the cyclist cut across the north bound lane; he said "onto" which is hard to imagine. I will try to get a copy of the police report.Michael Helquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-42144311044745412122010-05-17T00:38:31.721-07:002010-05-17T00:38:31.721-07:00i don't get this. what does 'onto the nort...i don't get this. what does 'onto the northbound lanes of Masonic' mean?<br /><br />i mean, i do that a lot -- not at that intersection -- but i do it on one way streets, and i do it on two ways when i'm trying to cut corners, etc., but it's almost completely inconceivable that a head-on collision could occur because <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=fell+at+masonic,+san+francisco&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Fell+St+%26+Masonic+Ave,+San+Francisco,+California+94117&gl=us&ei=8e_wS5_VMInusQPw0sSqDw&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA&ll=37.77303,-122.44562&spn=0.000068,0.003449&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.773012,-122.445727&panoid=e9C9Jf8GaF61e_JLAWWk2A&cbp=12,227.04,,0,5.98" rel="nofollow">the cyclist has great vision at that point</a>.<br /><br />i can only imagine that the officer's statements are misleading.<br /><br />sooo....what actually happened?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16319342837525619844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-103138876357404972010-05-16T23:14:43.804-07:002010-05-16T23:14:43.804-07:00"21201. (a) No person shall operate a bicycl..."21201. (a) No person shall operate a bicycle on a roadway unless it is equipped with a brake which will enable the operator to make one braked wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement."<br /><br />The officer's assessment that a lack of a hand-operated brake lever is the same as 'don't have any brakes' is inaccurate.<br /><br />And, it doesn't sound like braking or speed control had any part in the incident-- sounds like the guy turned without signaling, against the flow of traffic; so why are we talking about brakes? It'd be like saying 'well, clearly that car driver had a V8 engine and it was the sporty model...'mcashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493061264354584510noreply@blogger.com