tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post6524898542667679319..comments2023-09-30T05:06:56.904-07:00Comments on BIKE NOPA: FixMasonic Urges "Get to 25" to Stop Speeding, Endorses Option C as Most Effective Traffic Calming PackageMichael Helquisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-8867941839893671772010-09-24T16:28:34.261-07:002010-09-24T16:28:34.261-07:00Hey Mike. With respect, I'm not sure I agree....Hey Mike. With respect, I'm not sure I agree. Oncoming cars slow traffic and providing a buffer for drivers, even with landscaping, creates a more comfortable street for high speed, not withstanding other changes like chicanes and lane width. Trees planted close to a driving lane do narrow the street visually, but I don't see how they do so more in a median than they do at the curb.<br /><br />Most sidewalks on masonic are wide, which is great. I'd argue that there isn't such a thing as a too-wide sidewalk. Wide as they are, more room can still be used for landscaping, benches, etc. And a street wide sidewalks and narrow traffic lanes naturally has short crossing distances without needing the so-called "refuges" in the middle. IMHO those are really awful places to be stuck during a red light.Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-22033472328907448162010-09-22T17:27:41.090-07:002010-09-22T17:27:41.090-07:00A median planted with trees will visually narrow t...A median planted with trees will visually narrow the street which has been shown to reduce speeding; Masonic can be fast but it's not a freeway with all the visual and design cues for speed. Whether to install a median between the bike track and traffic lane is a consideration: that too would "narrow" the visual. Most of the sidewalks along Masonic are super-wide already.Michael Helquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-18090942101516709562010-09-22T17:21:30.205-07:002010-09-22T17:21:30.205-07:00A landscaped median will likely not discourage spe...A landscaped median will likely <i>not</i> discourage speeding. Rather, it will likely encourage it by making it more comfortable for drivers to go fast (this is why medians are required features of highways). Better to use the space a median would occupy to widen the sidewalks or add a landscaped buffer between the cycletrack and motor traffic.Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.com