tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post2987943376493145351..comments2023-09-30T05:06:56.904-07:00Comments on BIKE NOPA: Further Fixes for Fell Street / ARCO Station HazardMichael Helquisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-68155347912413705652009-11-12T18:02:40.224-08:002009-11-12T18:02:40.224-08:00I forgot to add the follow up report for the Fell ...I forgot to add the follow up report for the Fell St bike lane...more numbers!<br /><br />http://www.sfmta.com/cms/uploadedfiles/dpt/bike/rewrite%20of%20memo%20for%20website%2011_22_04.pdfMike Sallaberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03383956191730604553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-49810697483394366672009-11-11T11:22:44.362-08:002009-11-11T11:22:44.362-08:00Thanks for this post. I'm really glad to hear ...Thanks for this post. I'm really glad to hear so many creative solutions are on the table for this problem. <br />I lived on Baker St north of the panhandle when the wiggle connector to the panhandle went in, and I don't remember the history in the same way as it's recounted here. At that time (late 90s), both sides of Fell were already parallel parking zones. The proposal I recall from the bike coalition was to take out parking between Scott and Baker on the south side of Fell and replace it with a bike lane. Community opposition to the removal of on-street parking blocked that option, and the current bike lane on Fell St. was the compromise.<br />The post also mentions a lane on Oak St which doesn't exist to my knowledge. Are we talking about different eras or different parts of these streets?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13825234259522495251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-7378402055094516292009-11-11T11:10:44.661-08:002009-11-11T11:10:44.661-08:00OK, potholes reported, thanks for the instructions...OK, potholes reported, thanks for the instructions!lyqwydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246339570684365095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-32906743046501300602009-11-11T10:18:43.211-08:002009-11-11T10:18:43.211-08:00The way in which drivers queue up at that Arco sta...The way in which drivers queue up at that Arco station is really bizarre. It's as if they pull into the bike lane to avoid blocking traffic, but the lane isn't wide enough for a car so they just end up blocking both cars and bikes. Given this behavior, I'm highly skeptical that motorists would not also block the travel lane if a queue space were created by removing parking spaces on the southern side. And it's hard for me to imagine whether having cars cross the bike lane to get into the line would be any safer for cyclists than the current situation.<br /><br />I really like Michael Smithwick's proposal. Flexible posts alone would be enough, I hope, to stop motorists from blocking that bike lane. A brightly colored lane and/or a slightly raised surface would also be nice deterrents all the way up to the Panhandle.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140774973967306792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-38550942937574519872009-11-10T15:47:49.256-08:002009-11-10T15:47:49.256-08:00lyqwyd: construction companies are required to mai...lyqwyd: construction companies are required to maintain safe passage for cyclists, especially when the work occurs on a bike lane. This is the time to report the problem via 311. By phone tell the operator to refer the problem to the DPW Bureau of Streets & Mapping (BSM). SFBC reps had a very good meeting just yesterday with BSM inspectors and they are very responsive to these kinds of hazards. If you file the report online via sfgov.org and 311, select the "Street & Sidewalk Defects" and then the "Manhole/construction plates" option (try it here: <br />http://www.sfmta.com/cms/uploadedfiles/dpt/bike/fell%20street%20report%2011_22_04.pdf ) Keep track of the complaint # that will be provided; you can track the response online. thanks from the rest of us for reporting this one.Michael Helquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-31356708483688613212009-11-10T15:40:46.735-08:002009-11-10T15:40:46.735-08:00Thanks, Mike, for the clarification from MTA's...Thanks, Mike, for the clarification from MTA's experience. The report cited was prepared by Mike and provides interesting insight into the various traffic conditions on Fell Street in 2002. The study he conducted clearly indicated the benefits from installing a bike lane -- and giving cyclists a better option than riding on the sidewalk.The study also confirmed that negative impacts on vehicular traffic flow were not manageable. MTA engineers noted the queue of vehicles at the gas station seven years ago as well. Anyone interested in what to do about the traffic on Fell at the ARCO station should definitely review this report, now a baseline reference.Michael Helquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790571330038061382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-83446557342053509592009-11-10T12:58:43.565-08:002009-11-10T12:58:43.565-08:00I'd just like to see them properly fill the 2 ...I'd just like to see them properly fill the 2 huge potholes right in the bike lane path at the Fell & Divisadero intersection that were created by the work they are doing on Divisadero.lyqwydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246339570684365095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-77980645933433411802009-11-10T11:02:46.178-08:002009-11-10T11:02:46.178-08:00I am not sure making motorist wait in the travel l...I am not sure making motorist wait in the travel lane would be the best solution since currently when traffic is backed up into the travel lane it creates traffic back-up for up to 2 blocks before the gas station entrance. This is when motorists start honking and getting irate. It creates a dangerous situation as motorists have to switch lanes into fast traffic in the other lanes.rubyishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16200414757704632273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7569046838598986140.post-1506688586551406602009-11-10T10:02:44.812-08:002009-11-10T10:02:44.812-08:00Great to see the interest and ideas around this to...Great to see the interest and ideas around this topic. It's a challenging situation but one that can be improved with some creativity and will.<br /><br />MTA is regularly portrayed as the stodgy boogeyman, even when it's not the case. To clarify history, after the Parking and Traffic Commission voted down the original designs for Fell in 1998, the street was revisisted, studied with a trial, and in 2002 recommended by MTA/DPT to be redesigned to have a bike lane. This was initiated without any great campaign or prodding at the time, but done because the organization thought it made sense.<br /><br />For reference, the report with recommendations by the MTA/DPT can be seen here:<br />http://www.sfmta.com/cms/uploadedfiles/dpt/bike/fell%20street%20report%2011_22_04.pdfMike Sallaberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03383956191730604553noreply@blogger.com